Trump Supporter Insists E. Jean Carroll Had 'No Evidence' Then Admits Her Research Came From TikTok

A Donald Trump supporter who repeatedly insisted E. Jean Carroll had 'no evidence' against the US president was forced to confront a glaring weakness in her argument during a heated online debate: she had not read the court documents and said her research into the case came from TikTok.

The exchange took a dramatic turn when the woman, who had initially questioned Carroll's allegations and suggested she was motivated by money, eventually admitted she needed to conduct more research. By the end of the discussion, she acknowledged that her position had been 'fuelled by emotion more than fact.'

Trump Supporter: E. Jean Carroll Had 'No Evidence'

In the Dean Withers podcast, the discussion turned to Trump after an earlier argument over the Confederate flag, with the supporter accusing Dean Withers of unfairly portraying the president over sexual assault allegations.

When challenged about Carroll's case, she questioned how the writer had proved her allegations and argued that powerful and wealthy figures such as Trump could attract people seeking to make damaging claims against them.

She then suggested Carroll was 'just doing it for the money,' pointing to the damages she received through the civil litigation.

Dean Withers repeatedly pressed her to explain why she rejected Carroll's account despite the court proceedings.

'I just don't believe it,' the woman responded at one point.

The questioning later became more specific when she insisted there was 'no evidence' and, in particular, 'no physical evidence.'

'Here on TikTok': Research Admission Changes Debate

Asked to name a single piece of evidence submitted during Carroll's case, the Trump supporter conceded that she could not.

Dean Withers then asked whether she had read the court documents, examined the evidence or independently researched the proceedings.

'No,' she replied when asked about the court documents.

Asked what research she had conducted, she answered: 'Here on TikTok.'

She explained that she had seen videos of people saying there was no evidence or 'hard proof,' prompting Dean Withers to question why those TikTok accounts were more credible than people presenting a different interpretation of the case.

He accused her of confirmation bias and began listing evidence that he said had been presented during Carroll's civil proceedings.

Trump Supporter Concedes She Needs More Research

The discussion marked a significant shift from the woman's earlier certainty.

After hearing Dean Witherst's arguments about evidence in the E. Jean Carroll case, she conceded: 'I'll probably have to do more research on it.'

She continued to say that she believed 'in my heart' that Trump had not committed the alleged act, but acknowledged under questioning that believing something did not necessarily make it true.

'I might be wrong and I will have to do more research on it,' she later said.

When pressed further, she admitted she could not definitively make the claim because she had not completed her own research.

'Fuelled by Emotion More Than Fact'

The exchange ended with one of the woman's clearest acknowledgements about how she had reached her position.

Dean Withers questioned why she had not researched the case more extensively despite already holding strong views about Carroll's allegations and the proceedings involving Trump.

'You're right. You're right,' she responded.

'I guess it was just fuelled by emotion more than fact, but I'll go, I'll look it up.'

The wider debate also covered the Confederate flag, abortion, religion and immigration, but the Carroll exchange stood out because the Trump supporter moved from confidently disputing the case to acknowledging gaps in her own research.